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dred · 2007-12-25 19:16:22

Witam wszystkich.Szukam sposobu na odpalenie tej karty na serwerze bez srodowiska graficznego. .Komunikuje sie z nia za pomoca VLC .W vlc mam okno z mrowiacym ekranem (brak jakiegokolwiek śladu obrazu np tvp ,tvn itd ,nie potrafie ustawic kanalu na wszystkich kanalach sniezy)prosze o pomoc .Jakie opcje podac do modulow odpowiedzialnych za obsluge karty i tunera ... bo te ktore wgral automatycznie nie daja poprawnego funkcjonowania karty. Moze ktos juz odpalal taka karte i wie na jakich ustawieniach to chodzi .

Kod:

  dmesg
Linux version 2.6.18-5-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch6) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 21:24:20 UTC 2007
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000008000000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000ffe00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
128MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 32768
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:0
  Normal zone: 28672 pages, LIFO batch:7
DMI 2.2 present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 DELL                                  ) @ 0x000fdf50
  >>> ERROR: Invalid checksum
Allocating PCI resources starting at 10000000 (gap: 08000000:f7e00000)
Detected 448.631 MHz processor.
Built 1 zonelists.  Total pages: 32768
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro 
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic"
mapped APIC to ffffd000 (01109000)
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 1024 (order: 10, 4096 bytes)
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Memory: 122356k/131072k available (1541k kernel code, 8180k reserved, 576k data, 196k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 898.17 BogoMIPS (lpj=1796340)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000040 00000000 00000000 00000000
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
Compat vDSO mapped to ffffe000.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
Freeing SMP alternatives: 12k freed
CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 03
SMP motherboard not detected.
Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation.
Brought up 1 CPUs
migration_cost=0
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 4374k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfcaee, last bus=2
PCI: Using configuration type 1
Setting up standard PCI resources
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI: disabled
PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support...
PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fe2d0
PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf0000:0xe2f4, dseg 0x40
PnPBIOS: 14 nodes reported by PnP BIOS; 14 recorded by driver
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
* Found PM-Timer Bug on the chipset. Due to workarounds for a bug,
* this clock source is slow. Consider trying other clock sources
PCI quirk: region 0800-083f claimed by PIIX4 ACPI
PCI quirk: region 0850-085f claimed by PIIX4 SMB
Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX/ICH [8086/7110] at 0000:00:07.0
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x800-0x83f has been reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x850-0x85f has been reserved
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0
  IO window: e000-efff
  MEM window: fc000000-feffffff
  PREFETCH window: f6000000-f6ffffff
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:0f.0
  IO window: disabled.
  MEM window: f9000000-fbffffff
  PREFETCH window: f5000000-f5ffffff
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 2048)
TCP reno registered
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
audit(1198592332.324:1): initialized
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
Initializing Cryptographic API
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered (default)
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: Card 'CS4236B'
isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
00:01: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
00:02: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303,PNP0f13] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
TCP bic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
NET: Registered protocol family 8
NET: Registered protocol family 20
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
Time: tsc clocksource has been installed.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 196k freed
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:07.1
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
Probing IDE interface ide0...
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0
hda: ST93015A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: CRD-8482B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdc: Disabling (U)DMA for CRD-8482B (blacklisted)
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
PCI: setting IRQ 10 as level-triggered
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 0000:00:0d.0
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xd800, 00:c0:26:30:3a:17, IRQ 10
eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:11.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:07.2
3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html
0000:00:11.0: 3Com PCI 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at c8820000.
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 0000:00:07.2
PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 0000:00:11.0
uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: irq 11, io base 0x0000dce0
usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.2 (Mar 22, 2004)
hda: max request size: 512KiB
hda: 58605120 sectors (30005 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)
hda: cache flushes supported
 hda:<6>usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
 hda1 hda2 < hda5 >
hdc: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Attempting manual resume
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input1
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: Found 0000:00:07.3 device
piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: Host SMBus controller not enabled!
agpgart: Detected an Intel 440BX Chipset.
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf0000000
ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.
ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, using FIFO [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP]
wlan: 0.8.4.2 (0.9.3)
ath_rate_sample: 1.2 (0.9.3)
ath_pci: 0.9.4.5 (0.9.3)
PCI: setting IRQ 9 as level-triggered
PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 0000:02:0b.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 0000:01:00.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 0000:02:09.0
wifi0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
wifi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
wifi0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
wifi0: turboA rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
wifi0: H/W encryption support: WEP AES AES_CCM TKIP
wifi0: mac 5.6 phy 4.1 5 GHz radio 1.7 2 GHz radio 2.3
wifi0: Use hw queue 1 for WME_AC_BE traffic
wifi0: Use hw queue 0 for WME_AC_BK traffic
wifi0: Use hw queue 2 for WME_AC_VI traffic
wifi0: Use hw queue 3 for WME_AC_VO traffic
wifi0: Use hw queue 8 for CAB traffic
wifi0: Use hw queue 9 for beacons
wifi0: Atheros 5212: mem=0xf9ff0000, irq=9
Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac
Linux video capture interface: v2.00
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.6 loaded
PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 0000:02:09.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 0000:01:00.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 0000:02:0b.0
cx88[0]: quirk: PCIPCI_NATOMA -- set TBFX
CORE cx88[0]: subsystem: 107d:6611, board: Leadtek Winfast 2000XP Expert [card=5,autodetected]
TV tuner 44 at 0x1fe, Radio tuner -1 at 0x1fe
[ueagle-atm] driver ueagle 1.3 loaded
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] ADSL device founded vid (0X1110) pid (0X9021) : Eagle II
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
cx88[0]: Leadtek Winfast 2000XP Expert config: tuner=38, eeprom[0]=0x01
input: cx88 IR (Leadtek Winfast 2000XP as /class/input/input2
cx88[0]/0: found at 0000:02:09.0, rev: 5, irq: 9, latency: 64, mmio: 0xfa000000
usb 1-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
pnp: Device 01:01.01 activated.
gameport: NS558 PnP Gameport is pnp01:01.01/gameport0, io 0x3a0, speed 710kHz
tuner 0-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (cx88[0])
tda9887 0-0043: tda988[5/6/7] found @ 0x43 (tuner)
tuner 0-0060: All bytes are equal. It is not a TEA5767
tuner 0-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (cx88[0])
tuner 0-0060: type set to 38 (Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3))
cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]
cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0
cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] using iso mode
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] (re)booting started
usbcore: registered new driver ueagle-atm
pnp: Device 01:01.00 activated.
pnp: Device 01:01.02 activated.
pnp: Device 01:01.03 activated.
CS4232 soundcard not found or device busy
Adding 369452k swap on /dev/hda5.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:369452k
EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.7.0-ioctl (2006-06-24) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1
eth1:  setting full-duplex.
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] modem synchronization failed
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] (re)booting started
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
Netfilter messages via NETLINK v0.30.
ip_conntrack version 2.4 (1024 buckets, 8192 max) - 224 bytes per conntrack
NET: Registered protocol family 10
lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] modem synchronization failed
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] (re)booting started
eth1: no IPv6 routers present
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] modem operational
usb 1-1: [ueagle-atm] ATU-R firmware version : 44e2ea17
PPP BSD Compression module registered
PPP Deflate Compression module registered
eth0: link down
eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1
eth0: link down
eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1

Ostatnio edytowany przez dred (2007-12-25 19:34:43)

ilin · 2007-12-25 21:14:52

Z dmesg wynika ze wszystko jest ok.
Problemem moim zdaniem jest vlc który ma problemy z kartami na cx2388.
Jeśli masz mozliwosć to sprawdz czy ta karta działa choćby nagrywajac cos mencoderem (nie trzeba xów) i przegladając nagrany film.

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dred · 2007-12-26 06:10:30

Karta tv pod fluxboxem chodziła bez problemu (tvtime ja obslugiwal) W VLC nie mam obrazu tylko silne śniezenie tak jak bym wyjął antene z karty .Moze cos w ustawieniach karty zmienic ( modulach ) tylko jak.

ilin · 2007-12-26 07:42:02

Tu nie moduły są problemem.
Jeśli karta dzialała ok to nie w tym rzecz.
Tu w vlc trzeba grzebać.
Mam bardzo podobną kartę i przyznam ze nie udało mi się jej nigdy przez vlc uruchomić choć nie staralem się za bardzo.Pzez xawtv,tvtime,xdtv,mplayera dziala bez problemu.
Podpowiem Ci że jest tu gdzieś na forum link do skryptu [b]Bercika[/b] który własnie sluzy puszczaniu tv w lan.
Poszukaj.

EDIT:Właśnie odpaliłem vlc i tv działa.
A pamiętam ze kiedys nie chciało.
To może być coś związane z wersją kernela bo od 2.6.21 wzwyz nastąpiły duże zmiany w sterach do tych kart.
Jeśli masz niższe jajko to moze w tym być problem.
Sprawdzałem na 2.6.24.rc4

Ostatnio edytowany przez ilin (2007-12-26 07:49:40)

bercik · 2007-12-26 17:27:14

cala zabawa opieral sie na wspomnianym skrypcie ...

@ilin na jakiej wersji vlc i na module v4l czy v4l2 (ten drugi pojawil sie wkoncu w aktualnej wersji deweloperskiej vlc i byl wymagany do odpalenia vlc z przedmiotaowa karta) ?

@dred na jakim jajku pod tvtime chodzila ? ... bo niekiedy aktualizacja jajka tez moze rozwalic dzialanie karty (mialem tak z moja karta ze przez pewien okres - zanim pojawil sie wlasciwy parametr card w module bttv trzebabylo w kodzie modulu podawac numer tunera bo opcja - wczesniej akceptowana - byla ignorowana na skutek blednej autodetekcji ... a wczesniej chodzilo ok)

ilin · 2007-12-26 17:41:38

Odpalilem to na taki, poleceniu

Kod:

 vlc v4l:// :v4l-vdev="/dev/video0" :v4l-adev="/dev/dsp" :v4l-norm=3 :v4l-frequency=-1 :v4l-caching=300 :v4l-chroma="" :v4l-fps=-1.000000 :v4l-samplerate=44100 :v4l-channel=0 :v4l-tuner=-1 :v4l-audio=-1 :v4l-stereo :v4l-width=0 :v4l-height=0 :v4l-brightness=-1 :v4l-colour=-1 :v4l-hue=-1 :v4l-contrast=-1 :no-v4l-mjpeg :v4l-decimation=1 :v4l-quality=100

Tak z buta i zaskoczylo więcej się nie bawilem.

A wersja vlc z sida

Kod:

VLC media player 0.8.6c

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bercik · 2007-12-26 18:09:33

czyli wyglada ze na nowszych jadrach karta ta chodzi tez jako v4l a nie tylko v4l2

@dred zatem na nowym jadrze radze sprawdzic dzialanie na v4l i v4l2 ... bo byc moze to drugie jest jeszcze nieskonczone w vlc ...

ilin · 2007-12-26 18:12:42

Tam ważne jest aby zmienić źródło na /dev/video0 bo vlc się ustawia na /dev/video

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dred · 2007-12-26 21:53:28

To teraz mam pytanie , czy musze przeinstalowac VLC do mam w wersji 0.8.6d v4l2.?
Panowie dziala!! dziala!! dziala!!Jeszcze raz dziekuje wam a przedewszystkim BERCIKOWI za skrypt.

Ostatnio edytowany przez dred (2007-12-26 22:02:21)

ilin · 2007-12-26 22:01:31

[quote="dred"]To To teraz mam pytanie , czy musze przeinstalowac VLC do mam w wersji 0.8.6d v4l2.?[/quote]
Raczej nie.
Jak widzę teraz po dmesg to masz tam jajo 2.6.18.
Zmiany w sterach nastąpily od 2.6.21.
Od wymiany jajka bym zaczął.

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dred · 2007-12-26 22:05:00

ILIN jajko juz zmienilem .Wszystko dziala poprawnie.Uzywam skryptu bercika.Teraz bede testowal.dziekuje za naprowadzenie.Moje jajko to 2.6.23
Teraz walcze z dzwiekiem bo jest idealna cisza.Mam zainstalowana alse i wszystko podgloszone.Cos pewnie karta tv nie komunikuje sie z karta dzwiekowa.Jak to sprawdzic ??? Podłączyle sluchawki do serwera i w alsie ustawilem dzwiek CD i slysze wielki szum nawet jak vlc jest wylaczony. uzywam skryptu bercika.

Ostatnio edytowany przez dred (2007-12-26 23:35:32)

ilin · 2007-12-26 23:17:24

Z tego co widzę to nie jest tak słodko.
vlc nie inicjalizuje sterów tylko korzysta z ustawień po wylaczonym programie do tv.
Obraz jest ale dźwięku niestety niet.
Próba wpisania w opcjach kanalu tv czy częstotliwosci kończy się wykrzaczeniem programu.
Przynajmniej w mojej wersji vlc.
Albo coś źle robię bo te opcję są jakieś bardzo dziwne no a man to jest taki jakby go nie bylo.

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bercik · 2007-12-27 03:22:47

w vlc zamiast man'a lepiej czytac --help i dokumentacje w html ... wlasnie chyba glownie dla ustawien wymagana jest wersja wspierajaca v4l2

w alsamixer wybiera sie zrodlo dzwieku do przechwytywania (capture) wybrane na ogol moze byc tylko jedno i musi byc wlasciwe ...

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#1 2007-12-25 19:16:22

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Leadtek Winfast 2000XP Expert

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#2 2007-12-25 21:14:52

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#3 2007-12-26 06:10:30

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#4 2007-12-26 07:42:02

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#5 2007-12-26 17:27:14

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#6 2007-12-26 17:41:38

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Kod:

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